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From my friend David Palm who runs the website www.GeocentrismDebunked.com. It almost seems crazy to post blogs debating whether the sun rotates around the earth, or that the earth is the center of the universe with everything revolving around IT. But there are actually people out there with aluminum foil caps with antennas :-)  who still believe this.

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The last update of Geocentrism Debunked focused on the false scientific claims of the new geocentrists, specifically their extravagant claims about the cosmic microwave background (CMB).  This update will focus more on the theology, specifically from a Catholic vantage (but those from a non-Catholic background, please read on to the end.)

 A traditional Catholic supporter of the new geocentrists recently insisted in an on-line discussion that the whole matter is a “tempest in a teapot”. To him “[Robert Sungenis] is clearly no threat to the integrity of faith and morals”. He asks, “Is the geocentrist theory a threat to faith and morals? No on all counts” and insists that “At any rate, these people aren’t bothering anybody.”

 These claims prompted me to finish an article that I’ve had in the works for a long time. Geocentrism as a scientific view is a massive exercise in special pleading gummed together with conspiracy theories. But taken by itself, it’s not theologically erroneous. The problem is that that geocentrist hold it first and foremost as a matter of faith. And for the Catholic geocentrists, this runs them right onto the rocks of an actual heresy that has been formally defined by the Catholic Church.

 This is documented in the new article “Geocentrism: Tempest in a Teapot or Theological Shipwreck?

 Presented in three parts, this piece answers directly the brush-off that the new geocentrism “is clearly no threat to the integrity of faith and morals” and that the new geocentrists, “aren’t bothering anybody”.  Ironically, in their zeal to uphold what they think is the “True Faith”, the Catholic geocentrists end up falling into a serious theological error that has been formally condemned by the Catholic Church.

 We also have three other articles that support that thesis and highlight the defective scholarship of the new geocentrists:

 “Geocentrism and the First Vatican Council”, which highlights still further the serious theological challenges faced by the new geocentrists. It’s not just the 1820-22 decrees that they have to face, declaring that there are “no obstacles” or “any difficulties” for Catholics to hold to non-geocentric views, but many other official acts since then.

 “Sungenis and Pius VII: Turning the Evidence on Its Head”, in which Robert Sungenis gets the import of an entry in the Acta of the Holy Office exactly backwards, and…..

 “It’s All in the Translation”, in which Sungenis mistranslates a French word and distorts a scholar’s meaning.

 Now, for those who come at this issue more from the vantage of what sacred Scripture has to say on the matter, please consider these articles:

 “Sungenis Looses What He Has Bound on Joshua 10”, in which Sungenis himself admits that there are “inumerable” ways in which God could have accomplished the miracle recorded in Joshua 10 and,

 “Geocentrism and the Pitfalls of Over-literal Interpretation”, highlighting the sometimes humerous results when one applies a wooden literalism, even to the poetic parts of sacred Scripture.

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DAVE PALM WRITES: The really exciting thing about this latest update of Geocentrism Debunked (www.geocentrismdebunked.org) is that I didn’t write any of the new material myself.  Others are seeing the problems with the geocentric enterprise and weighing in.

 Over four years ago physicist Dr. Tom Bridgman issued the “Lagrange point challenge” in response to geocentrist Rick DeLano’s breezy claim that “Geocentrism perfectly accounts for LaGrange points”. We’ve already seen in past articles that their “answer”, four years in the making, consisted of basic math blunders and material plagiarized wholesale from two scientists. Now, in a new article Dr. Bridgman adds his own commentary on the failure of the new geocentrists to meet his challenge:  Dr. Tom Bridgman Weighs in on Geocentrists Flunking the Lagrange Point Challenge (http://www.geocentrismdebunked.org/bridgman-on-flunking-lagrange-challenge/)

 Camille M. Carlisle, the science editor at Sky & Telescope magazine, has weighed into the geocentrism controversy with a new article. I am very pleased that other people of faith—in this case specifically a Catholic—are pointing out that the arguments deployed by the new geocentrists are not just bad science, but bad philosophy and bad theology as well.  Wow, bad science, bad philosophy, bad theology—it’s a dangerous combination.  See Protecting Faith From Pseudoscience, by Camille Carlisle (http://www.geocentrismdebunked.org/carlisle-protecting-faith-from-pseudoscience/)

 Robert Sungenis, the leader of the modern geocentrists, attempted to rebut Miss Carlisle and demonstrated yet again that he is simply not competent to handle even high school level physics.  Dr. Alec MacAndrew has drafted a new piece pointing out still more basic errors in Sungenis’s work. These are compounded by Sungenis’s replacement of the well-known and perfectly adequate mechanism of gravity with a made-up medium that, “magically [does] just what he needs it to do, while remaining completely undetectable whenever he doesn’t need it.”  See “Elementary Physics Blunders in Sungenis’s Reply to Sky and Telescope’s Camille Carlisle” (http://www.geocentrismdebunked.org/sungenis-elementary-physics-blunders/).

 And I found a great article written some months ago by one “Anthony T”, who does a fine job of critiquing geocentrism scientifically, philosophically, and theologically.  Be sure to check out Geocentrism: A Dangerous Pseudo-Science by “Anthony T” (http://www.geocentrismdebunked.org/geocentrism-a-dangerous-pseudo-science-by-anthony-t/)

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“The Principle”: Bob Sungenis’ Poor Attempt to Prove Geocentrism

November 12, 2014

UPDATE Jimmy’s Critique of CONTENT of the Principle movie http://jimmyakin.com/2014/11/whats-wrong-with-the-principle.html The Principle: A Movie Review by Jimmy Akin Recently the Register asked me to reviewThe Principle—a documentary that promotes geocentrism, or the idea that the earth is at the center of the universe. This film is much smaller than most of those the Register reviews. Indeed, [...]

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Update on Geocentrism Debunked

October 21, 2014

For those following the debate about whether the earth actually is the center of the universe with everything spinning around the earth, check out this latest update posted by my friend Dave Palm. You can read the whole thing here http://www.geocentrismdebunked.org/the-cmb-and-geocentrism/  Here are the introductory paragraphs: The New Geocentrists have been claiming for some time that [...]

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“My First Confession”: Hilarious! Irish Storytelling at its Best!

October 5, 2014

Not only Irish storytelling at its best, but also Batt Burns at his best. After dinner tonight we all went up to a private room and Pat Burns entertained us for an hour. He had us with tears in her eyes both from laughter and from sadness which is what a good storyteller can do. [...]

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Prepare for the Fringe Geocentric People: Catholics Claiming the Earth is the Motionless Center of the Universe

July 18, 2014

UPDATE 7/20/14, 9:15 PM Eastern: There must be a network of Geocentrists who quickly call each other to defend their position. As soon as I posted this blog about the geocentric system I got a bunch of comments within that matter of a few hours which demonstrated to me that someone sent out the message [...]

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Some Catholics Live in Nutsville; Does the Sun Really Revolve Around the Earth?

December 16, 2013

They wake up every morning and think the sun revolves around the earth. They live in a different universe than the rest of us. They want you to join their new alternate reality. These folks are marginalized and relatively unknown – and for good reason. They live in Nutsville, a cult that dwells on the [...]

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Google and the Vatican Work Together so you can Tour the Catacombs in Rome

November 27, 2013

Early Christian burial sites are now easier to see, both in person and via the Internet, thanks to 21st-century technology and collaboration between Google and the Vatican. “This is perhaps the sign of the joining of two extremes, remote antiquity and modernity,” said Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi at a news conference Tuesday at the Catacombs of [...]

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What Kind of Music Did Abraham Listen To?

May 30, 2013

Our next DVD in the Footprints of God series will be entitled “Abraham, Father of Faith & Works.” We will begin filming in Iraq — in Ur of Chaldees — which is the home of Abraham, just south of Baghdad (Gen 11:28-31). Thanks to the Biblical Archaeology Society to which I subscribe, we can now listen to music [...]

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Ireland 4: Fantastic Night of Irish Song & Dance – including our pilgrims!

September 26, 2012

The locals all showed up at the pub until way late to teach us to sing and dance. What a great evening with the talented yet simple towns folk.

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Incredible New Video “From Conception to Birth”

March 21, 2012

Make sure everyone sees this because it is a marvelous argument against abortion. This is new technology that won its inventors the Nobel Prize. It pulls back the curtain on the developing baby and the mystery inside the womb. Hang in there for the first three minutes while he is explaining the technology — the [...]

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Atheism Rationally Explained :-)

February 29, 2012

ATHEISM: The belief that there was absolutely nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits of random stuff thrown together by chance which then turned into dinosaurs who crawled out of [...]

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Scientists Concluding Universe had a Beginning? God Smiles!

February 28, 2012

Scientifically this is big news. In the January 2012 edition of New Scientist Magazine it was stated that scientists are now facing up to the problem of the universe having a beginning – until recently they could postulate that it was eternal and the main theories to support this were “eternal inflation” and “multiverses”. However, [...]

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From Largest to Smallest in the Universe and Back; How Big is God?

February 24, 2012

How important are we in the big picture? What is the biggest thing in the universe and if you delve down, what it the smallest? This is a well-done sliding, interactive “video” show that you control. Click on each item along the way for further information. Force yourself out of your little world and see [...]

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A Poem entitled “Bethlehem”by Joe Marmion, one of our recent pilgrims

November 11, 2011

Bethlehem 2011 By Joe Marmion Pilgrim on October 28, 2011 Pilgrimage Pictures taken in Bethlehem’s Chapel of the Angels My favorite line in Joe’s poem, is the last line. Remember that day he took fresh straw and swept the clods and dung away to clear a place for his wife to lay? She was the [...]

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