Medjugorje “Seer” Banned from Making Presentations in U.S.

by Steve Ray on November 9, 2013

Congregation for the Defense of the Faith prefect says alleged apparitions have yet to be ruled authentic

VATICAN CITY, November 07, 2013 (Zenit.org) – Archbishop Gerhard Mueller, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, has reiterated that the Vatican has yet to rule the alleged Marian apparitions in Medjugorje, Bosnia-Herzegovina, as authentic.

[Steve Ray insert here: For three other sources of comment and info check out 1) Mark Shea's blog post Medjugorje is a Fraud (with almost 200 debating comments!); 2) Al Kresta's Analysis of Medjugorje and 3) Jimmy Akin's "14 Things you Need to Know and Share about the Medjugorje Letter."

I am often asked, "Do you take groups to Medjugorje?" And my answer is always "NO!" I respect the authority of the bishops and the Holy See and will not visit an unapproved site with suspected fraudulent "apparitions or locutions" which are causing great confusion and divisions within the Church.]

The archbishop’s concerns were made in a letter, instructing American bishops not to allow Ivan Dragicevic, a visionary from Medjugorje, to make a U.S. tour at the end of October during which he was expected to receive “apparitions”.

Mr. Dragicevic subsequently cancelled his engagements which were scheduled to take place on Oct. 26 in Danvers, MA, and on Oct. 27 in Greenville, RI.

Archbishop Mueller made his concerns known to the apostolic nuncio to the United States, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, who conveyed them in an Oct. 21 letter to Msgr. Ronny Jenkins, General Secretary of the U.S. conference of Catholic bishops.

“[Archbishop Mueller] wishes to inform the bishops that one of the so-called visionaries of Medjugorje, Mr. Ivan Dragicevic, is scheduled to appear at certain parishes around the country, during which time he will make presentations regarding the phenomenon of Medjugorje,” Archbishop Vigano wrote in the letter. “It is anticipated, moreover, that Mr. Dragicevic will be receiving “apparitions” during these scheduled appearances.”

The letter continued: “As you are aware, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is in the process of investigating certain doctrinal and disciplinary aspects of the phenomenon of Medjugorje. For this reason, the Congregation has affirmed that, with regard to the credibility of the “apparitions” in question, all should accept the declaration, dated 10 April 1991.”

That document, from the bishops of the former Yugoslavia, asserted that on the basis of research, it was “not possible to state that there were apparitions or supernatural revelations”.

Archbishop Vigano added: “It follows, therefore, that clerics and the faithful are not permitted to participate in meetings, conferences or public celebrations during which the credibility of such “apparitions” would be taken for granted.”

“In order, therefore, to avoid scandal and confusion,” the letter concludes, “Archbishop Mueller asks that the bishops be informed of this matter as soon as possible.”

The majority of the Medjugorje “seers” contend that the apparitions have continued every day for decades. A Vatican commission of cardinals, bishops, theologians and other experts has been studying the authenticity of the apparitions, under the leadership of the CDF, since 2010.  

After the Vatican examines the commission’s findings, it will be given to the Pope who will have the final say.

{ 4 comments… read them below or add one }

russ rentler November 9, 2013 at 2:27 PM

As a former Protestant Christian, we were often carried away with the latest “move of the Spirit.” Often it would involve charismatic manifestations, prophecies, healings etc. (I know as Catholics we certainly believe the charismatic gifts are still a part of the Church) But, there was no authority to declare whether these “events” were legitimate. Even then I began to realize that something was missing but couldn’t put my finger on it. A new prophet would blow into town and be given center stage to share the latest “new thing” the Lord was doing. Our fellowship group would always be pursuing the “next big thing” and we always were searching for the ultimate experience. At times I felt that our church service was a carnival vs a worship service! Often this led to some pretty crazy stuff. What a comfort to discover that the Catholic Church is our safety net to keep us from straying or following something which ultimately is detrimental . I know people have been blessed by the events surrounding this apparition, however, we can relax and take comfort in the Church led by the Holy Spirit who leads us in all truth. If the Church tells us to not pursue Medjugorje until they have approved it, than let us obey and stop protestimg

Kathie M November 9, 2013 at 7:22 PM

I second Russ’s comments. Always a Catholic though and happy we can relax and not worry about what’s true and what’s not and worry about our personal discernment in these matters. If we submit to the church, we will always be led straight! I am glad they are finally saying something. I have always felt funny about the seers going on “tour” and having public apparitions.

Kris November 9, 2013 at 11:38 PM

The church has NOT told us to not pursue Medjugorje, as a matter of fact the Bishop was told that he could not ban people from going there. It should be noted that he was a huge advocate of it until he was ‘chastised’ by Our Lady. He forbid pilgrimages which the Vatican said he could not do, but asked that clerics not lead pilgrimages there. The Bishops authority on Medjugorje was taken away for review by 2010. The church does not make a decision until AFTER the visions have stopped, but many have gone there and found the fruits of prayer, confession, conversion remarkable. Our Lady always comes before a battle (see Fatima, Rwanda, etc.), and given the state of our world, why wouldn’t she come to try and bring us to the Lord?
As you have probably guessed, I have been there, and I will tell you this-you will see miracles, you yourself could watch the sun with no damage to your eyes, etc., but it is NOT the miracles, but the very living of the faith to serve our Lord that is so profound. We are told that to judge the “fruits” – if conversions, confessions, devotion, and fasting on water and bread every Wednesday and Friday, if Our Lady’s incredible calls for prayers for God’s Shepherds, if her constant call to prayer, fasting, eucharist, confession etc. are not enough, then you should ask yourself how six ‘kids/teens’ have maintained this life for almost 30+ years. Look at the fruits and check your facts-PJP2 made sure that people could go to Medjugorje. And as the Bible says: if it is from man, it will fade away, but if it is from God, be careful lest you find yourself against God.
There is nothing new taught at Medjugorje (one of the criteria for approval by the way), but taught with a Mother’s love.

Bill912 November 10, 2013 at 3:07 PM

The Church tells us that ONLY the Church is competent to judge the validity of an alleged apparition. Why would you make a judgment you are the Church tells you you are NOT competent to make?

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